I wonder if those people carrying two phones for work vs personal would prefer to have a single physical phone that has two lines?
I mean, could you imagine needing two computers because you wanted to have two email addresses?
Owen Rooney
· 1 year ago
We have the same situation here in Europe. Often employees have a Pre-pay phone for personal use and a contract phone for business or people use their business phone for personal calls (sometimes up to 40%)
We are have developed an app that resides on the handset which the user can tag the call as personal or business. It shall only present the calls that have not previously been tagged.
Employees like it as they can have the freedom to use 1 handset for all usage and they can avail of much better tarriffs. Employers like it as they can control usage and are fully Tax compliant as the mobile phone is increasingly seen as a "benefit in kind" by our Tax authorities.
Samuel A. Falvo II
· 1 year ago
@David J:
IRS tax laws stipulate that you must account for your personal-vs-business property when filing for taxes. Using your phone for both personal and business uses (regardless of how many lines it supports) could complicate matters (one month, it could be used for 75% personal, the next only 25%). Having two phones makes tax reporting that much easier.
etesh mangray
· 1 year ago
great research jason.
David J
· 1 year ago
@Samuel A. Falvo II: fair enough about the phone itself, but if you get a separate bill for each line then I expect that you could treat your business phone bill as a business expense.
Dennis Blank
· 1 year ago
I carry a Blackberry for phone and email while working and have a second line and small cell phone for off-hours. it is more convenience to carry and doesn't require repeated entry of an security code, required by my employer to protect the corporate web site.
Dean Bubley
· 1 year ago
This all comes down to individual choice. In the UK, there's about 1.6 active SIMs per user, and many people have 2 or 3 devices.
I often meet people from the mobile industry who say "surely everyone would prefer a single device if they could have multiple numbers / all the features / work & personal 'personalities' etc.
Yes, some would. But plenty of others actively want two devices and two (or more) numbers. Even leaving aside the idea that you want one device with a Qwerty for work email, and another with a 5MP camera that looks cool, and a 3G USB modem for your laptop, there's plenty of other reasons to have 2+ phones as highlighted in this article.
A classic case I see here in the UK is teenagers who get given a phone by their parents.... but also get a cheap phone of their own on prepay to contact their friends, share content, send SMSs to their boyfriends/girlfriends and so on, without risking their parents being able to intercept it or cap their usage.
I carry two cell phones I am an executive director of a fundraiser so that is my blackberry and then I have a iPhone that only friends and family get the number to. It sucks getting ready to sit down and crack open a brew to have a call come in for your business.
I would love to have one cell with two lines with the option to turn one or the other off when you dont want to listen to it ring, but I dont know if that is possible.
Jess Porter
· 7 months ago
Hello:
I am told their are cell phones with 2 or more slots for SIM cards, this would give you 2 different phone numbers on the same mobile phone.
Also the FCC--Federal Communications Commission States the following Here:
A subscriber may have multiple phones with the same telephone number. However, there are restrictions. Each individual phone must have a unique Electronic Serial Number (ESN). The ESN is a unique number programmed into each cellular telephone at the time it is manufactured and is used by the cellular carrier to identify a telephone to determine whether the user of that phone is entitled to obtain service and to insure that the proper accounting is made of all activity. Most cellular phone emulators or extension services simply "clone" cellular phones, duplicating not only the telephone number but also the ESN. The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. It is possible to obtain two cellular phones with the same telephone number as long as the cellular carrier in the market has the software in place to handle the billing and its fraud detection system won't be triggered by the use of two phones with the same phone number.
Jess Porter
Karly
· 5 months ago
Interesting article. I think the reason for the lack of the 2 line cell is the fact that phone companies have opportunity to make more money, but anyway I found a way around it I found this website www.secondvoice.com that let's you add a second line to any cell. It works alright and is way way way cheaper than carrying two cells. My other option would have been to get the iPhone and download skype on it, but who wants to do that.
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I mean, could you imagine needing two computers because you wanted to have two email addresses?
We are have developed an app that resides on the handset which the user can tag the call as personal or business. It shall only present the calls that have not previously been tagged.
Employees like it as they can have the freedom to use 1 handset for all usage and they can avail of much better tarriffs. Employers like it as they can control usage and are fully Tax compliant as the mobile phone is increasingly seen as a "benefit in kind" by our Tax authorities.
IRS tax laws stipulate that you must account for your personal-vs-business property when filing for taxes. Using your phone for both personal and business uses (regardless of how many lines it supports) could complicate matters (one month, it could be used for 75% personal, the next only 25%). Having two phones makes tax reporting that much easier.
http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/01/...
I often meet people from the mobile industry who say "surely everyone would prefer a single device if they could have multiple numbers / all the features / work & personal 'personalities' etc.
Yes, some would. But plenty of others actively want two devices and two (or more) numbers. Even leaving aside the idea that you want one device with a Qwerty for work email, and another with a 5MP camera that looks cool, and a 3G USB modem for your laptop, there's plenty of other reasons to have 2+ phones as highlighted in this article.
A classic case I see here in the UK is teenagers who get given a phone by their parents.... but also get a cheap phone of their own on prepay to contact their friends, share content, send SMSs to their boyfriends/girlfriends and so on, without risking their parents being able to intercept it or cap their usage.
http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2007/09/...
I am an executive director of a fundraiser so that is my blackberry and then I have a iPhone that only friends and family get the number to.
It sucks getting ready to sit down and crack open a brew to have a call come in for your business.
I would love to have one cell with two lines with the option to turn one or the other off when you dont want to listen to it ring, but I dont know if that is possible.
I am told their are cell phones with 2 or more slots for SIM cards, this would give you 2 different phone numbers on the same mobile phone.
Also the FCC--Federal Communications Commission States the following Here:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=...
Multiple Phones With Same Number
A subscriber may have multiple phones with the same telephone number. However, there are restrictions. Each individual phone must have a unique Electronic Serial Number (ESN). The ESN is a unique number programmed into each cellular telephone at the time it is manufactured and is used by the cellular carrier to identify a telephone to determine whether the user of that phone is entitled to obtain service and to insure that the proper accounting is made of all activity. Most cellular phone emulators or extension services simply "clone" cellular phones, duplicating not only the telephone number but also the ESN. The Commission considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation.
It is possible to obtain two cellular phones with the same telephone number as long as the cellular carrier in the market has the software in place to handle the billing and its fraud detection system won't be triggered by the use of two phones with the same phone number.
Jess Porter